Well call me crazy but I have always liked the looks and the fit of the T/C Hawkins much better then the Renegade. Two of my friends have .54 caliber T/C Hawkins and I think they are so beautiful compared to my Renegade. I always thought the patch box on the rifle was extra special. Thats where you store two quarters. That way when you shoot that monster buck you have money for the pay phone always handy to call your friends and brag about it...

All kidding aside, I think the patch box adds to the over all dress of the rifle. I read how some of the old mountain men would decorated their rifles with brass tacks, beads, feathers, and anything else they could, and would always shine the patch box and all the other brass up to a high gloss. It was the one fancy thing they owned in their harsh life I guess.

I have seen a number of them at Rendevous that are works of art almost. Like I say, my one regreat when I built my Renegade was the Hawkins were not on sale at the same time because I would have had one of them instead....

By the way that is one great rifle you have. It really is one of my favorite all time rifles in the Black Powder world for looks and the way they shoot. The Renegade I have is a nice rifle but it is not something special like a Hawkins.