Thanks for the reply, but still, how does the loud bugle help? If a normal human can hear an elk from 1/2 mile, then surely a normal elk can hear even a soft bugle from at least a mile. So why the loud bugle? So what if that lets bulls hear you from over a mile? How many elk have you called in from over a mile away? Since you obviously can't hear it from that range, you're going to have moved on by the time the one elk in a million that will actually come from a mile away ever gets to where you called from. Right?