beej99- there is an outfit in whittier that rents larger boats. kinda pricey but it might work i will have to see if i can find there #. whittier small boat harbor may know who it is. 2-3 years ago the rates were $550 for first day and less for each additional day. i will try to remember and look for there card when i get home in a couple weeks. if i remember right they had 3 boats. - pat