well iwent ahead and got the viper ultra which has a footrest as well as a shooting v for guns. I really like the rail all the way around me for i am alittle nervous up there lol. i hunt between 20 to 25 feet high . our deer here in east texas are hunted pretty hard and are very skidish. so the extra comfort will be a bonous to me . I really want to thanks all of you for you help. Someone told me to check the sight out and i have found to be very helpful. N ow all i got is get my shoulder back in shape had a tear last fall and tring to avoid surgery that is were the weight came from no exercsie for 5 months. so I shot sunday for the first time and it was so fun but i did get sore i turned my poundage down from 75 to 61 to start . well any oter advice is always appreciated . please feel free to email me advice or ask questions i am at [email protected] Thanks again!!!!