I've used weedless frogs while pike fishing in Ireland. The action is amazing!! I find cover that I think will hold pike, throw out a cast and make the frog splash and try to spark the pike's predatory instincts. I also made the frog lure 'hop' from one lilly pad to the next and let it go in the water between the pads. There's nothing like catching a pike on those frogs. I've also had the same problem with having a pike missing, but its worth it in my opinion.