Groundhunter: We are trying our best to guide you. Granted, some have been a little coarse and to the point. Simply consider that Buck Magnet just spent a considerable amount of time in his response. He has been there. He has done that. That is why many of us are trying to help you. We know the feelings about lost game. We have been there. No one is claiming to be perfect. Please keep in mind that bowhunting is a very different critter. Gun success does not necessarily mean that you will have that same success at a pot shot 10 yard shot with your bow. Then you take it out to 35 yds. at dusk. Many of us just consider that a fairly risky if not poor choice. Think things over for a few days, re-read some of our comments and then go on with your life. I wish you the best my friend.