I'll put my gold 10ga up to any mossberg 3.5". I have seen mossberg's let way too many people down in the goose field, heck, one day the front bead fell off of my buddies. You coulnd't pay me to shoot a 835. I'm sure you did kill birds out to 50 yards, I don't need to shoot birds that far. I have yet to shoot a bird over 30 yards, whether fall or spring. Why you ask do I use the 10 then? Because I have it and because I can. Good hunting.