Thanks everyone. I went back to work a few days later, and my apologies for not responding to this sooner. I did not (she wouldn't let me) get ack out into the woods again for the season. I'm all healed up and even bought a new bow. I,m shooting aot at the range and moving ack upstate to the woods so hopefully by next seaon I'll have a new place all picked out and scouted. Actually where I grew up has giant deer but hunting has never been allowed, but now they're allowing bowhunting in the most prime areas you could imagine, so I just may get to hunt big ol bucks in the woods I grew up in>go figure- maybe things do happen for a reason, and can ya believe that NY of all places, is actually smart enough to use deer management?! Glad to hear from all of you, and again, thanks>Chris