I hear ya. Thats one of the reasons I do very little hunting anymore in NJ. The drives have gotten completly outta hand. Im not against say 4 or 5 guys doing a little push to get the deer moving but these clubs line up and do their re-e nactment of Picketts Charge through every plot of land they can. I know its a tradition and all, but it might be time for F&G to think about stepping in and putting some kinda control on whats going on. If that means banning drives all together,,,,, so be it. My 2 cents.