I can understand my friend , As I had posted on the other forum , it can be done without a guide and if you follow my post. I understood years ago that the Merriam population tends to migrate to lower levels over the winter months and then travel back up to higher grounds in the spring. I got this info from a local Cowboy that hunts sheds in the area . I have the aridginal Mount Rushmore pic if you want to see it. It was taken back in 99/00 and went National. Since then there has been others that have did the same with the idea...BT