kshunter, The guy we are hunting with has 7000 acres under lease, he says most of the farms are 400-500 acres each. He doesnt take a lot of people and he says he doesnt take bowhunters on the same land as gunhunters, so we are supposed to be hunting farms that havent been hunted until we get there. He claimed that all six of us should take a deer and he says he expects one of us to take a 170" or better. Hes really confident, he says we should have some opportunities at really big deer.