I've only seen a few that were as big as you'd expect to see. Most of the ones I've seen are like really big foxes, but I shot one that was bigger. Her den mate was even bigger, most likely a male. I have always said I would give it a try during the winter, but things always come up to keep me busy. This is the time of year to make money off the hides since they are really thick for the winter. If anyone knows the current price for them, please post it. It might give the wife some incentive to let me out of the house.