Con. we were able to shoot and we were getting 290fps w/ a 406 grain arrow at 29" and at 70# and I also shot the liberty and Pat again and my 3d arrows were in fact 8 to 10 fps diff w/ the liberty and pat,the pat was in fact faster so I ordered one tonite. And I decided to keep the BLK since they disc. the TB model. I'll just use the BLK for 3d's.

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