I love the Remington 870 12 ga. Kicks like a mule with a rifled barrel and sounds like a cannon but it holds it groups out to 100+ yds. I like the pump becuase it is lighter and easier on the wallet. But thats all just a matter of opinion. If you don't like a hard kicking gun then you might want to look somewhere else but if it doesn't bother you then I suggest you check this one out!