Thank you for you're responce. I resently sold my 835 in hopes to purchase an auto-loader for turkey hunting,(my wife would'nt understand the need for two turkey guns, another story alltogeather).And I was kicking around a few makes and models for such a task. Particulary the Charles Daly&the Mossberg 935. Not that there was anything wrong w/the 835,I just felt it was time for a change. Again Thanks.