yes i hunted there from 1985-1992, these guys would get in trucks go to the top of the mountains spread out across the top and run the deer down to the roads and that is where the standers are. The walkers carried pots and pans and screamed the whole way, we hunted the mountain across from them and watched them from about 1/2-3/4 mile away and were absolutely amazed, but they did kill some nice bucks