This isn't what I recommend, but...I killed a deer this year with a $100 Bear, no silencers, no limb savers, 2-prong rest, and good arrows. He was 20 yards looking right at me (I was on the ground). He didn't see it or hear it. I think the only reason it worked is because I was comfortable with it. Don't get me wrong I will be uprgading after christmas.