the argument for what exactly fair chase will continue on for centuries to come. it's all based on oppinion. for instance i feel that rounding up wild stallions to be used as rodeo horses by using a helicopter is wrong. at the same time, i believe that putting on line drives in the woods to drive deer to sitting hunters is fine. the indians used to chase buffalo over mountains, plunging to their deaths. i feel on the high fence areas, you have to take into consideration of what the land owner is actually trying to accomplish by putting thousands maybe millions into their property and deer herds. i also think that these estblishments would be closely whatched by local maybe even federal humane society personel to ensure that the animals have the proper habitat and food supply and to make sure that the herd is in good health. this would cost a bundle...... after all, these types of things take permits and liscenses. i'm also pretty sure that to keep a herd healthy and strong, they do allow younger bucks to be harvested. i actually heard of one around here that if you take an 8-point or lower, you pay a penalty, but you are allowed. none the less, i can appreciate the hard work and huge expense that it would take to accomplish such a goal.......... with that being said i think that as long as the deer are totally wild and aren't shot while they're eating off the keepers tailgate, let them be counted.....anything other than that it would be as fake as pro wrestling