4C, in Carbon Cnty, also looks slow. There have been some deer taken, mind you, but I don't hear the shooting like other years. Every other hunter I ask, they say "no, didn't see anything". I haven't seen a deer yet, this season, but the wind may have a lot to do with it. On Monday, I hunted just west of turnpike and didn't see another hunter all day. Heard a total of six shots by 11 AM, on the first day of gun season. But the bucks that are taken are 8 pts or better, I'm hearing. Gary Alt must be very happy with this.