last time i was down drummonds aprox 2 -3 yrs ago it was so thick down there i seen bear & deer tracks . but i jumped a monster down there & could'nt even find him in my scope . my brother jim just told me that were he hunted on alcoa property off 780 is now posted no hunting . so he lost that area to hunt . said he's going to hunt some property near his house in washington twp.but good luck to you during pa's gun season.