he' s harvested a bunch down here and up in virginia, that is why he is the expert, lol.....i ' m not arguing the fact that deer down here are different in a few ways, the rut is a big difference...i' ve only hunted a few years now, but i have learned more than most....i have the internet(ya' ll), i have the time spent in the woods, and i' m still learning, i just dont understand how i can make him realize that yes, even i can be right.....just as much as he is about them heading to the marsh, i know they do , that is why i hunt it, but not all of them......thanks ya' ll...keep them coming, i' m going to show him that i am not the only one that argues this point.....he thinks that people online dont know squat about hunting, that ya' ll just tell me what i want to hear and i' m sorry but i have learned way too much and continue to do so from ya' ll.....THANK YOU ALL !