Okay I made a mistake on the primers I'm using. They where the Winchester 209s. I always heard BH209 needed compressed but I don't think I was compressing it enough. I used the bullet starter and really stood on it and my fouled barrel 3 shot group tightened up to an 1 or less. I'm using TC shockwave 200 grain bullets 90 grains of bh209. After deer season I'm going to work a little more on it. I think some of it is me also. I have bloodline 275 grain bullets I want to work with also and might buy some more this weekend and try them out. The one bloodline I shot, was within an inch of the others so I'll be able to shoot them also. The more I shoot the happier I'm getting lol.