To bornagain64 its on public land and a big peice in missouri and another big peice next to a field with rub lines and beds and also a blind in a field with rubs and scrapes, they are all big areas on public land and I haunt used blinds or tree stand at all till I found the ground blind area and used that but most of the season I been sitting by hollers or ponds with my back against a tree with some doe pee on a branch