Guys who have tried to get the CEB 40cals to shoot in SMLs with sabots have had tons of problems. I tend to shy away from monolithic bullets with small HPs,,,, at least at smoker speeds.

There are numerous pages on Dougs of guys who have tried and most have been total failures even in twists faster than 1-20. Chasing the high BC dragon is the cause of the vast majority of this problem. You aint gunna get there with a big honikng HP.

TB is on the CEB bandwagon now promoting the 44cal CEBs mostly. He hardly touches on the topic of need for speed with these bullets. "Free stuff" and sponsorship has clouded his objectivity once again.