Hey bornagain64 if that bird in my avatar has a double beard and both beards score a little over 20 inches and his spurs run around or above 1 1/4 inches all I will need is the weight to be a little over 22 lbs. your team looses.. So I know this contest will be coming down to the wire.. Do not rule nothing out just yet... :-) I posted a better picture of the one in my avatar and he was eating deer food put out for deer in a yarding area all winter.. So if his weight is there or the other beard with more than one beard shows up for me.. The lady will be singing a very good tune..