Cool man I was trying to say when you have a pup and no older dogs to work it with do you use training luyers or the skins of the animals you want them to go after to give them a idea of what they are supposed to be looking for I know when I was growing up if we had a coon or rabbit pup all we had to do was make sure it knew it name and to come when we called it I have seen the long line used on TV for founding shot game but do they use it for finding fox rabbits and hogs before the shot is so that would be very interesting to know how that would go about being done