Thanks for the replys guys. But shame on me for not being more specific. I'm not talking about neck or shoulder shots. I'm talking strictly behind the shoulders and back. I think now this truly shows how good your particular bullet is. In the heat of the moment I always aim in the center of the Elk or Deer right behind the shoulders. I just feel it allows a lot of room for error and I get more meat this way as well. That's a lot more important to me with Elk ecspecialy.