I've rattled a lot over years. The only place I've had luck with it was in Texas. I used a rattle bag and a grunt call. It worked a few times but each time was different. I've also used the doe in estrus call the can. It's just luck I'm sure but I've had deer come in shortly after using it in the past but no luck so far this season with any call. Just keep trying that's all I'm going to do good luck !