B&C. I quess in a way I might agree with you. I quess I also may be one of the people you mention who have strong ethics partly because where I hunt I see litterly 100' s of deer almost every season. There is never a need for me to take an iffy shot and certainly not even a running shot. I seldom if ever shoot at a running deer unless he is already hit. Mule deer have the habit of almost always stopping to look back at you before the go over that last ridge. The first day I was out this year, I drove over a little rise in the field and there stood two bunches of Mule deer. One bunch was about 150 yards the other bunch about 250 yards. I got out of the jeep and walked 20 yards or so toward them then took the time to lay down and get a good rest and scope them out. looked over all the deer in both groups, about 8-10 in each group. I finally picked the biggest doe to fill my doe tag and dropped her in her tracks. The whole time I fielld dressed that doe the rest of them stood about 150 yards away watching. They were still standing there when I loaded my deer and took off. I am spoiled and tend to frown a little on people who can' t make a clean kill. Where I hunt you almost have to try to blow a clean kill. In that case there is no excuse for taking a bad shot. Those Mule deer in Farm country have no fear of trucks and tractors as they see them every day. You can drive just about right up to them with a tractor.