No matter how much time you put in, you still need ALOT of luck to get a mature buck within bow range. Luck that the wind doesn' t swirl, luck that the buck decides to travel during daylight, luck that he comes your way, luck that he follows the trail your hunting, luck he stops in a shooting lane, luck he doesn' t bust you drawing, luck etc etc etc. Obviously, hard work and experience will place the odds on your side, but in reality it' s just a game of luck. I' m dang glad I' ve been lucky the last 10+ years