Bearklr, THe is post was in response to another post that disussed this topic. That post is the post that fuels the fire. The mere mention of these hunters fuels the fire. The only way to keep a unified front is to support all hunters that hunt in a legal manner and if we as a community disagree with those hunters methods then we must lobby for new legislation. Instead of creating oposition to the sport in our own ranks we must make sure that the majority of hunters agree with the current rules governing hunting. You guys would rather outcast these people than change their ways. They arent poachers they arent criminals, they are just less responsable than myself and most other hunters. I just get sick of the complaing. If it bother you so much do something about it. Dont just sit around picking others apart. I realize that is sorta what this message board is for but i am willing to bet none of you have invested any of your own time into solving this matter on a legislative level. As long as you put in your two cents you have done all you could. That is a crappy attitude.