I got these gloves while I was in Afghanistan 05-06. If you haven't been it gets below 0 a lot in the winter. I still have them (although they aren't in very good condition now) and when I went to find the link they are on clearance at Academy. So I just ordered 2 more pair. If you have an academy go try them on you want them to fit snug. Now I use them during hunting in KY and north Fl. If the temp stays about freezing they are all I need if it gets below 20 I got a muffler and just regulate temp with that.

http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/seir...ldCatid=504452