O.K Guys I am going to give away my secret blind plan---because of back surgery I hunt ground more than I have before--I hate pop up blinds seems so confined-- I now buy used unwanted older imitation xmas trees, 7 footers or more, I pound in steel poles in a circle about 8 feet diameter, put tree against pole in tie in with zip ties, put a swivel chair In middle yer done---I also bend branches to create shooting holes for lanes--I have had deer bed inside the trees on nasty days, partridge squirrels etc also, I shot a 7 point buck 1 foot from outside edge of the trees 3 years ago does not take too long for them to get used to the trees Now you all owe me big time H H