Thank you BTM! I knew at least somebody would get a chuckle out of that! Seriously though a lot of times a poster will suddenly read that what has worked for him (or anybody) for YEARS is now extinct and no longer worthy if you believe some of the posts. I'm not talking specifically about any posts in this thread or any other, just keep watching when someone posts a very simple basic question (perhaps too basic?), and all of a sudden the game is on & unless it's the latest whizzbang magnum or a 293 Bremingchester supermag Loudenboomer it's not effective any more! This is more a general observation compiled from forums & facebook groups. I do have to admit to having done the same thing in the past, but try to carefully think out my posts before making that final click. Maybe I should have made a new thread for this by itself instead of inserting it in an existing thread?