I agree. It would be great to have a 10 lbs climber that was as comfortable and my Goliath, but I will gladly carry the extra weight to gain all the comfort. I don' t like heights, but in my Goliath I find myself going higher and feeling more secure about it. This has helped my hunting a great deal. Overall summit stands are excellent and your correct they go the extra mile to make the customer happy. They are a true credit to the industry.