Rip4par I'm glad that there is someone else out there that knows the deal. A lot of people think that these guys walk on water. I know for a fact that i could kill 5 or 6 birds a year if i hunted were these guys hunt. But thats ok I know if you can take turkeys off public land every year consistently then you can take turkeys anywhere. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>