mudder, I'm with you. any buck is a trophy in my book. or should I say any deer is a trophy. I'm don't hunt for bucks with trophy antlers. any buck or doe fits my bill. I enjoy the meat and don't eat the antlers. lol. being from Pa. and having antler restriction here, I feel deer hunting hasn't been the same as it was when I was young. ill soon be 64 so ive hunted before AR and seen more bucks back then. just my opinion.