thanks guys, In fact i will be hunting n the second season. I am leaving next wends. I will be hunting wends through Sunday . I was thinking about getting a cow call but didn't . now i probably will . Nice bull by the way . Packing meat down hill makes sense. I have been keeping in mind that there is a chance that i don't see a single elk and it doesn't even bother me because of the fact that its in the mountains. Getting a kill or even a sight of an elk would just be the icing on the cake! Thanks for the replies guys , I will re post when i get back to civilization and the inter web unless some one replies before i leave .