I follow a very simple rule of thumb for cartridge/bullet selection. If it can't penetrate shoulder at a specified distance then it's a useless bullet/cartridge selection. There is absolutely no way one can expect to get the perfect broadside shot that those PB's HAVE to have to take a big game animal. Animals tend to not cooperate for that. I want a bullet/cartridge that I can depend on to do the job at pretty much any angle presented. Any Bow Hunter worth his salt can tell you that passing on many deer because they don't present you an ethical shot presentation gets frustrating and old. Having to do it in a firearms season as well because you made a bad bullet/cartridge selection is simply foolish. Not when there are SOOOOOOO many other choices out there that can and DO the job so much better.