Some guys posted on here and I read about others in a mag that would have competitions to see who could touch one first. They would sit downwind of a campfire and get the smoke all over them, stand behind a tree on a well-used path and reach out and grab hair out of the deer' s back. One guy tried it and when he pulled on the hair, he slipped in the mud and got under the doe. She proceeded to stomp the hell out of him and pee all over him. That would be fun to explain at the deer camp.