Just rummaged through the closet... Except for a very nice shooting Savage 10, all the 308's are either little Remington 600's for walking around or Mauser 98's with long heavy barrels for roomy stands where I don't have to lug the behemoths very far. All routinely group under 1.2" and most will put 5 shots into less than an inch. Only one of the 600's were bought new in the box. Don't despise the "used" rack.