I have a few boxes of them but haven't shot them yet. My buddy uses them in the condor area (lead is banned) on pigs and they do the job on 300+ lb boars. He also uses them for deer and has been pleased for the last few years.

If you don't HAVE to use them like we do in some areas, then like Blackelk said, why? I would use a 90gr Accubond.