I have to add this,in some places in Va. the deer herd is way out of balance,you see a lot of deer with a nice rack on one side and a spike or claw on the other.Lots of semi white deer and spotted deer.After a few years of culling does and bucks with messed up racks,the quality of deer improved on the land we hunted on.My hunting buddy shot 2 bucks in the 150 class..I also hunted on my girl friends property where they only shot bucks and let all the does walk.Like all things in nature you have to have a balance .My Gf property was over run with does and you where lucky to see a buck of any kind.