I've only had my Mossberg 20ga for 2 years and have gotten 5 deer and 1 turkey (with the full choke) it pattern pretty decent with the full up to 30 yards with the exception of only one choice of Ammo (Win double x) . but got a super full for extra yardage, really excited to see my patterns for this year, I think any gun can pattern the same it all depends on how good of shot you are.