My grandson shot his first deer yesterday (Button Buck) at 80 yds using my White M98 with them 465gr bullets that I cast with a load of 70gr of 777-3F that Semisane been shooting. The deer was slightly quartering towards my grandson and I was about to tell him wait until it turns broadside when BOOM and I saw the deer dropped right where it was standing. The bullet caught him high in the shoulder and traveled the length of the body and almost came out by his groin. I was able to recover the bullet. I weighed it at home and it still retained 420 grains out of the 465 grs. I was pretty impressed with how the bullet mushroomed. Below is a picture of my grandson with his first deer and the before and after picture of the bullet.