100% agreed on the 17 being too light to do the job humanely. I shot a trapped yote several years ago with a friends .17 Raging Bull to try out the new weapon. I shot it at about 25yds broadside in the ribs to only see it pop right back up like nothing happened!!!! Next shot was in the ear. NO jump back up!!! .223 with Hornady Superformance or Winchester Ballistic Tips are great 'yote stoppers and nearly zero richochette concerns. Especially from an elevated postion.