No Game stalker no one has to excuse me. The OP ask for advice, this is somene who does not even have a clue about how to hunt, asks if he should douse himself with deer urine and walk around. I gave him good advise, join a club and find someone to help him. He comes back with a smart ass post about drunks dope users and children kill deer indicating hunting is no big deal which is pretty much an insult to those he is asking for help from. I may not know more than you game stalker but after over 50 plus years of hunting and 40 years of helping new hunters, something I still am doing, I don't need some snot nose smart ass jumping on me for giving him good advise, nor do I need your crap. Getting a few points on the iternet to learn how to hunt with no base knowledge what-so-ever is not a good way to start. Yes, there are plenty of self taught people, however, getting help in person is much better than blundering around on your own. I really don't care if he takes my advise or the advice of those giving him tips, it was the fact he ask for help, then spewed a bunch of nonsense essentially saying any idiot can do it, if that is the case, why ask for advice?