on a side note for trophy management, I think we need to spread the word about passing up on BIG 2.5yo, I'd rather a guy take a 6pt or 8pt 2.5yo+... and get those poorer genetics out of the pool than taking big 10pt 2.5yo... I would suspect most BIG deer in IL are 2.5-3.5yo 10pts... if we could get them spreading their genes longer we could really see some monsters out there.