wow! is this thread really still going. tussey mountain hunter, did you get all that? hope this all helped out. THANE, hi.been layin low latley. lots of other stuff keepin me busy. did finally make it back to fletchers this week after nearly 2 wks. of not shootin. I,ll dig out my "my name is" sign. if you get there when I'm there I usually have my little boy shootin with me. BLAIN; one question, have you found a guide that will aloow you off the airplane with a shotgun in kodiak? lamar.