80 gr is the max for the Traditions Buckhunter pistols. I' d like to get one myself but have yet to convince my wife to let me get one. They' re legal in our handgun season here and since I have a bias against guns that aren' t front loaders, it' s the only reasonablely priced inline handgun choice. Wish more manufacturers would make inline handguns. I do have a lead on an old SS Knight Hawkeye, but I' m still undecided.